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May 23, 2011

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Derek

My two cents...

There will always be a creative side to marketing. Those awesome creators and designers out there make us take notice of great new products and services we might have otherwise ignored. Creativity will not die anytime soon, so I think Kendall can rest easily.

On the flip side, if someone in your organization is not measuring the influence of marketing and the value that it delivers, your efforts are subject to the next line of budget planning discussions where your organization will come out (again) on the short end of the stick. For those that continue to argue that marketing cannot be measured, you will continue to suffer the consequences of ever-shrinking budgets, credibility among your exec team, and frustrations of your marketing staff.

Ken Rosen

This topic came up for me earlier today. Any former VP of Marketing can only salivate at the evolution of Marketing tools--from Marketing automation to QR codes to trackable social media. Yet can it be a crutch? John Lehrer's How We Decide goes into detail about about back doctors became enamored with MRI. They could finally see inside the back to understand problems. But they attributed too much to what they could see and ignored other signs. Costs and surgeries rose, but outcomes stayed the same. I DO wish I'd had fabulous, measurable tools when running inside Marketing. And I'm confident the union of of these tools with great strategy is a vast improvement. Yet I worry about fads...or at least a pendulum swinging...with so much focus on the numbers and, for some people at least, less time to focus on what they mean.

Scott Brinker

Excellent analogy from Lehrer's book, Ken -- thanks for sharing!

Silviu

mad men & math men & creative agency should make peace.
is better for every piece of framework.

great article by the way!

Rand Schulman

Creativity without conversion = ZERO

Rand Schulman
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Iamdougo

Good debate. I’ve always subscribed to “mad men” partnering with “math men”. It seems to me that smart Brand spending with good Brand metrics (like aided and unaided awareness, reach, etc) has an impact on your more directly measurable DR media (both in acquisition and persistence of customers) in quantifiable ways that can help both Brand and DR marketers be more effective – and build meaningful cases for shifting and/or adding and subtracting spend in different areas.

Duncan Macdonald

Marketing has always been a Math state - issue has been the lack of accountability in the past. As tools to measure marketing, lead tracking and sales conversion the ability to calculate the math has become easier.

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  • Scott Brinker I'm Scott Brinker, a marketing technologist with [ n > 15 ] years experience at the intersection of marketing, IT, software product development, and online networks. I'm currently the president & CTO of ion interactive, a company that delivers post-click marketing software and services. (Note: the postings on this site are my own and don't necessarily represent ion's positions, strategies, or opinions.) Previously, I ran a technology consultancy with clients such as Fujitsu, CBS Sportsline, Siemens, and Tribune. Before that, I was president of Galacticomm, a leading provider of bulletin board software (in the days before the Web). I have a BS in Computer Science from Columbia University and an MBA from MIT Sloan. You can reach me at: sbrinker [at] chiefmartec.com.

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