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June 01, 2010

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Maria Tseng

Thank you, THANK YOU. Your blog post is soooooo much easier to read than Razorfish's too-cute 60-page report. I did read it but hated the experience. Ok so I'm a dinosaur, but I think their packaging obscured the message.

Scott Brinker

Hi, Maria -- I guess this is a good example of "remixing" in action. ;-)

Matteo Brunati

Nice post, Scott!

A question: what do you think about the Open Data movement applied to Data Web Marketing in general?

I mean, in other words: the fact that Gov is making a strong effort in this direction, helps the general attitude of organizations towards the idea of putting data IN the Web and not only on the Web.

Because instead of closing data with a logical layer ( data with API applied ), we can have the raw data, also.
With the metadata applied to, of course.

There is a lot of potential, thinking on social objects instead of websites and pages...

Anyway, interesting times .)

Scott Brinker

Hi, Matteo -- thanks for the great comment.

I'm a big fan of the potential of semantic web technologies and the linked open data movement. I remain confident that sooner or later that will be where these different data marketing trends converge.

In the short-term, I'm happy that people are even thinking about data at all. It takes some getting used to the idea of sharing data rather than hoarding it. As businesses and marketers start to realize the potential of sharing this data to reach new people, strengthen relationships with prospects and customers, and build their brand, then the real power of standardized linked data will become apparent.

I sometimes think that the semantic web is a spectacular solution to a problem that doesn't yet exist -- at least outside of IT or certain scientific communities. People need to want to share data at a large scale and see the benefit of it first. Only once that desire exists does the logical next question arise: what's the best way to accomplish that? When that question arises, the semantic web will take off like a rocket.

As you say, interesting times indeed!

Matteo Brunati

I've noticed that in fact: we make websites to talk to the Market and we spend a lot to make them findable...
But websites are a minimal form of data about us: i'm thinking about RSS, that makes our sites more connected with the stream of the Web.

Why we are on the Web? To share something about our lifes. ( our work and not only of course )

Why not sharing with the Web rules ( linked data principles ) and become part of the ecosystem instead of using a sort of very long supply chain? .)
Or why not?

Probably the point of Eureka is the VRM scenario, i'm thinking about it in the last months, seeing the global privacy dilemma.
And the last post of Doc Searls is a pre-Eureka point:
-> Managing relationships, not each other

Data Web Marketing and VRM together: a change in the paradigma of the Market, i think.

Kingsley Idehen

Great post as usual.

Web Sites are going to become "Data Spaces". Linked Data fidelity per Data Space will vary, but over time folks will realize that Serendipitous Discovery and Agility are inextricably LINKED. End game: a dense Web of Structured Linked Data where Serendipitous Discovery Quotient of Resources (Documents) increases exponentially.

Data Access Interfaces into Data Spaces will be increasingly uniform and more oriented towards the intrinsic power of HTTP i.e., the ability to send powerful messages to Data Spaces that are Data Representation agnostic while based on a universal Entity-Attribute-Value model [1].

Links:

1. http://bit.ly/bmdv5N -- Data 3.0 Manifesto


Kingsley

Matteo Brunati

@kingsley: great annotations.

What do you think about the value around the concept of Data 3.0 and these dense LINKED Web? I mean after the Metcalfe law, is there anything so simple to simplify the idea to the Market?

http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/entry/rdf_and_metcalf_s_law

( of course not only applied to rdf model )

Scott Brinker

Thanks for the link to Project VRM (vendor relationship management), Matteo!

I agree that it's powerful shift in paradigm waiting to happen. Although many vendors will likely resist, as it gives up some of the leverage they have today, I believe that a new generation of vendors will turn this to their advantage. It's like a data/process version of the social media revolution. Those who embrace it as a way to forge better, deeper relationships with customers -- by embracing genuine transparency and customer-centric practices -- will thrive in the next wave.

Kingsley, I love the Data 3.0 Manifesto!

For some reason, the initial link you posted didn't seem to resolve, but here's an updated one that does:

http://bit.ly/crRl1c

Betsycodding

Scott - Thanks for this -- it is so helpful in doing strategic thinking about future iterations of web sites, content, etc. Any words of wisdom on how to evaluate web content management/web engagement management systems? who is talking about products that might support the agile model you describe?

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  • Scott Brinker I'm Scott Brinker, a marketing technologist with [ n > 15 ] years experience at the intersection of marketing, IT, software product development, and online networks. I'm currently the president & CTO of ion interactive, a company that delivers post-click marketing software and services. (Note: the postings on this site are my own and don't necessarily represent ion's positions, strategies, or opinions.) Previously, I ran a technology consultancy with clients such as Fujitsu, CBS Sportsline, Siemens, and Tribune. Before that, I was president of Galacticomm, a leading provider of bulletin board software (in the days before the Web). I have a BS in Computer Science from Columbia University and an MBA from MIT Sloan. You can reach me at: sbrinker [at] chiefmartec.com.

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