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Larry LaFata

Just like the insurance business ruined the sales field, Scott- with their hard "first call closes" - marketers ruined the internet by publicizing the success of their scams, and even selling products based on them.

One marketer offered recently, sells you 20 adsense arbitrage sites a month. Sites with no content, just adsense links. Heck, you can create a website with nothing but adsense links on expensive keywords, and click on your own links through a redirect site, and make a couple hundred a day.

one such site, as an example was www.rattruth.com - its 100% links to only adwords advertisiers.

This happened to me recently, where one of these sites banged me for 16 clicks at 85 cents each, all in one day. Turned out to be linked to those data miners,
Qualcast.com or whatever their name is (they want to be the new Alexa.)

Parked Domains are another recent encroachment on legitimate marketing.

legitimate marketing tactics do pay off, but it takes much longer to break through the static, and click fraud on small business (with Google ceratinly profiting, instead of seeking out these nonsense sites) destroys my confidence in pay-per click.

So even those not familiar with the black hats of PPC marketing, are turned off by an otherwise excellent idea by 40.9%. Too bad.

Of course, Harvard is not a true cross section to take a sample of, Scott, as they're mostly out-of-touch elitists over there.

Hasn't been any brilliance out of there since they were co-opted by socialists in the 70's. They're just an intellectual echo-chamber now.

Thanks for these insights, however squewed. We get the idea.

Scott Brinker

I agree that the "scams" of marketing -- particularly on the Internet, although decades of junk mail, telemarketing, and infomercials haven't exactly helped -- have been the biggest source of damage to legitimate marketers.

Michael Arrington just recently railed against those sort of practices with "free" social game companies who monetize with (increasingly shady) in-game offers: fill out this survey, inadvertently sign-up for a $10/month SMS service, get some "free" game time, etc. And he makes a great point that such sleazy practices have the effect of driving out legitimate advertisers.

It's a real problem.

Can the industry collectively self-regulate this -- i.e., stricter policies and enforcement by Google, Facebook, etc.? Or is this a place where some government oversight (the FTC?) would be helpful? I'm wary of both of those approaches, but the Wild Wild West gold rush free-for-all needs to give way to a more civilized age, or the whole ecosystem on which the Internet is funded runs the risk of collapsing on itself.

As for my sample, to my knowledge, none of the participants were from Harvard -- most were folks I begged for on Twitter and Facebook. No doubt, still skewed and subject to echo-chamber effects.

Ruud Hein

A drawback may be that a lot of people don't know sponsored results from regular ones. So asking people whether they click on them or not might not give accurate feedback.

Good post.

Scott Brinker

Thanks, Rudd.

You bring up an interesting point. It is plausible that many of the people who click on the ads in Google don't necessarily think of them as ads. Google has tried to walk a careful line with simultaneously delineating them and having them blend in with the look-and-feel of the overall page.

But this is where I start to get concerned. If advertising is relying on unsophisticated participants to deliver ROI -- and major services such as Google are relying on advertising -- then what happens as the population slowly but surely becomes more sophisticated?

I think Google's original ambitions were to try to make advertising more useful to Internet users of all kinds. But that is clearly a high bar... and one that could probably use more attention in the industry.

Adam Needles

Hi, Scott.

This is a great post -- very insightful.

There are some jaw-dropping statistics here.

But there also is a big insight -- that's a positive but that needs to be understood and responded to by marketers: Search advertising is not really early-stage search ... which means that it is unlikely to shape initial thoughts and instead is more likely to be engaged as late-stage serendipity in the buying process. This type of buyer-centric insight might completely change how some marketers design their search ads.

Interesting to think about.

Thanks for sharing your research with us.

Adam Needles
B2B Marketing Evangelist
Silverpop

Twitter: @abneedles
Blog: http://www.silverpop.com/blogs/demand-generation/

Scott Brinker

Thanks for the comment Adam (and also all the great tweets about this post!).

I think you're right at the search advertising is failing to connect almost entirely in early-stage searches. While there are reasonable arguments for why that is the case, I'm doggedly against resigning search advertising to late-stage value between users and advertisers.

Particularly as the noise in organic and social media continues to rise in volume -- a lot of good stuff, but a lot of not-so-good stuff mixed in -- I hold out hope that search advertising will experience a Renaissance. In theory, it should be an excellent way for good advertisers to signal to the right buyers -- and actually help them with their early-stage objectives.

But that will require different kinds of ads (and different kinds of corresponding post-click marketing). We've got some work ahead of us, but I think with a little ingenuity and boldness we can help make advertising more useful to users. Where "advertising" and "useful" probably have very broad possible interpretations.

Curtis Lipsey

This is a great post! I used to work at AT&T as a Search Engine Marketing Specialist. My job was to sell pay-per-click marketing to yellowpage advertisers. The hardest part was having to listen to the advertisers tell me that they "never" clicked on the sponsored results section because they didn't trust them, or never looked there, or simply ignored them. This is a great study that is sad but true. I felt it every day at AT&T. Thanks again for the post!

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